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What I will bring you in this review
- Graph/Specs
- Summary
- Pros
- Cons
- Video Review
- Amp/DAC requirements
- Who benefits?
- Thoughts from Stu’s notepad
- Consensus/Conclusion
- Final Word
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Samson SR850
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Measurements
My graph is pretty decent for the most part, but I think Rtings illustrated the 8-10kHz peak a bit more accurately. That just needs to come down a bit.
Specifications
- Type: Semi-open. Closed back vs. Open back headphones.
- Fit: Circumaural
- Impedance: 32 Ohm.
- Frequency Response: 10Hz – 30kHz
- Efficiency: 98dB/mW
- Transducer Type: Dynamic
- Driver Size: 50mm. What is a Headphone Driver?
- Cable: Straight
- Cable Length: 8.3 feet
- Plug size: 3.5mm to 1/4″ adapter (included)
Summary
Right off the bat, these remind me so much of the AKG K240 Studio.
They have the same hammock-style headband, and their weight feels very similar.
I don’t know if it’s because I haven’t picked up a pair of K240s in a while, but the SR850s feel a bit more durable to me.
- Related: AKG K240 vs. Samson SR850
The earcups are a bit shallower, but you’ll dig the velour padding on the 850 more than the faux leather of the 240.
The K240’s pads felt more rigid and stiff as if they were going to crack and completely fail you.
I’ve heard rumors that the 240 does tend to break down over time, but I haven’t experienced it for myself yet.
Comfort
With the 850, Comfort is a bit hit-and-miss.
When you first put them on, they feel great; the clamp is just right and the weight is perfect.
Over time you’ll notice them hurting your ears due to the shallow cups and unfortunately it’s just about the same issue I have with the K240.
What makes the 850 a bit better is that the cups are velour and thicker than the K240’s faux leather toy pads.
Because of that,
the 850 is going to be more comfortable than the K240, but you’ll still likely be making adjustments over extended listening/mixing/gaming sessions.
Speaking of listening sessions, how’s the sound?
Sound
The sound quality is phenomenal for the most part.
The great thing about these headphones is that they don’t sound bloated or cheap – something that a lot of entry-level models suffer from.
The bass is definitely lean, but it still has some impact.
But,
if you’re a bass-head you may want to stay away.
This is a headphone more for the budding audiophile who desires an overall balanced sound and tends to drink tea with their pinky out.
Treble-wise, they do have a tendency to become bright, and pretty sibilant at times. What does Sibilant mean?
For the most part, they are incredibly detailed and have a nice sense of air about them, but I will caution you that it will likely need some EQ.
Gaming
I would say the Soundstage is particularly impressive.
I get a nice sense of space and depth in the music. The width of the image is exceptional, and for Gaming, these are a real treat.
For whatever reason, I don’t find them harsh or sibilant when I’m watching movies or slaying baddies. Go figure.
I’d say these very closely mimic the Soundstage of my beloved K702, but perhaps not quite as wide.
You will notice a lot going on in film that you were previously unaware of.
It can be subtle but really adds to the intimacy and immersion.
There were times when it legitimately felt like surround sound speakers in that I could hear things that I kind of thought were noises happening outside of me.
An example of this is the Method Man scene in Garden State.
You can hear all sorts of strange and interesting sounds going on in the background that feel like they’re happening inside your home, causing you to take the headphones off and investigate.
With music, there’s this strange depth and thump that I can’t quite explain.
Everything has a nice lively quality about it.
The instruments feel more present and have a nice element of realism.
You’ll also start to hear subtle details in the music that sound really interesting and also very revealing.
There are qualities about the 850 that feel too good for a headphone this cheap.
Almost as if the price seems incredibly low for the quality of sound you’re getting.
To me, it’s astounding that a headphone below a hundred dollars could bear some of these same qualities as the stuff in higher price ranges.
Frankly, it’s scary.
I sometimes talk about the law of diminishing returns in my articles.
This simply means that beyond a certain price threshold, the increase in sound quality gets incrementally smaller even though you’re paying a lot more.
This is why it really doesn’t make sense to purchase a headphone for over a thousand dollars (in most cases, there are exceptions) when you can get just about the same sound for around $300.
With lower-end stuff like the 850, you’re really not missing that much and in fact, the sound is strikingly similar to some of the mid-fi gear that I’ve gotten a chance to demo or own.
The catch is that yes, instrument timbre and tuning on higher-priced models are definitely superior to the cheaper stuff, so keep that in mind.
Pros
- Lively sound. There’s a nice crisp quality to the 850 that really leaves you smiling.
- Plenty of air. These are very open and have a nice sense of space and depth.
- Build quality. It’s impressive for such a lightweight can. I feel like these can take a bit more abuse than your average Joe.
Cons
- They definitely can be strident at times and may need some EQ around 8-10kHz.
- Comfort isn’t terrible, but you’ll be making adjustments with these. The ear cups are shallow and tend to dig after a while because your ears are basically touching the drivers.
Amp/DAC requirements
These will not require an amp and sound great out of your mobile device. How to choose a headphone amp!
Being that they have a 32 Ohm Impedance and 98dB of Sensitivity, they’re very efficient (meaning they don’t need a lot of power from an amp), and don’t resist power at all.
If you were to purchase an Amp/DAC for these, I wouldn’t go any farther than an E10K or K3.
Who do these headphones benefit?
They do well with a lot of genres, and I like them with:
- Indie/Indie Pop.
- Rock/Classic Rock.
- Hip-Hop.
- Jazz. A lot of finer as well as minor details become present.
Thoughts from Stu’s notepad
I’ve heard Pink Floyd’s “Wish you were here” about a thousand times, but the sense of space and separation of the instruments here is impressive. Normally, the sounds kind of run together, but here they have a chance to breathe a little (no pun intended).
I really like the personality of the music as well.
Things seem to have more character; you’re able to get a sense of how the artist intended for the song to sound.
It’s hard to explain, but good headphones kind of reveal the true nature of how music sounds.
There’s more impact behind the instrument. It feels more real, present, and complete.
Something I’ve also noticed is that instruments tend to sound more whole, with fully fleshed-out bass lines, as well as other instruments and vocals.
What I’m really digging about the 850 is the fact that when a song reaches a crescendo, I don’t feel overwhelmed as if the sound is just out of control.
You know the feeling I’m talking about:
stuff starts running together, things feel claustrophobic and out of focus, and you can’t really hear what’s going on clearly.
I haven’t had this problem with the 850, and again, it’s astonishing to me given its price.
Consensus/Conclusion
The SR850 is an extremely revealing set of headphones with a very open, airy sound.
They can be strident at times, but it’s something you’ll likely either come to accept or EQ down a bit.
Comfort can be hit and miss, and the build, while light, doesn’t feel cheap.
My Video Review
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Final Word
The SR850 isn’t a perfect headphone, but it’s an incredible value for the price.
I would highly recommend them at a cost even over a Benjamin.
For their current price, it’s an absolute steal. This is a very underrated headphone for sure.
You may be wondering why I replaced the 850 with the K240 in my Budget Kings Series, and if the 850 is still worth a purchase.
In all honesty,
it’s hard to decide between these 2 headphones as I’ve swapped them out of the list a couple of times.
On one hand, the K240 is less comfortable but has a more subdued treble.
On the other hand, the 850 is crisper, livelier, and more comfortable, but has the treble peak issue.
I suppose the 850 is the 6th man right now (well 7th seeing as how Budget Kings contains 6), but it may easily make the list again in the future.
In other words, I still think it’s an incredibly relevant headphone and should absolutely be considered if you’re just getting started with headphones.
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-Stu
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22 comments
I just want to say, Stuart, that it’s refreshing to read your honest reviews on headphones. While yours are not the only good reviews, there are a lot of fanboys pushing products and it’s not all that hard to tell which reviews are somehow paid for through commercialism.
It took me many hours of research before I was able to find the painstaking, excellent work you’ve presented. Your work far exceeds the norm on the web and I really appreciate you giving of your valuable time and energy to help me and others reach a difficult decision. You rock!
Hey Mike!
Thanks much I really appreciate that. I do my best to be unbiased and honest about what I hear. Do you mind if I put your nice comment on the front page? Let me know!
Blessings,
-Stu
Hey, i love watching your videos and getting information. Have a equalizer setting for Samson SR850 ? Thanks.
Hey Raven!
Nah I don’t actually. I’d probably just EQ down 9-10k though by about 5 or so dB. It just ends up being a bit much. Outside of that, the headphone is fantastic. How did you find my site if you don’t mind me asking?
Dear Stuart,
I ordered one yesterday and I’m eagerly waiting for it’s arrival. After reading a lot of reviews and watching videos, I found that Samson SR850 suits best for my needs. I’ve read your post on the comparison of SR850 with AKG too. But since it needs an additional amp I can’t go for it. Also it’s price is twice of that of SR850 in my country. I can’t afford both AKG and an amp at present.
My main usage will be mixing and mastering my personal music creations and songs, and also listening to music. I don’t like punchy bases or high trebles that all commercial headphones, though I was a fan of them a decade ago. Also I stopped listening to music using any headphones/earphones a decade ago (due to some personal reasons ?), and this would be the first time in the last decade I’m going to listen to music using headphones. So I want to start in a realistic, flat/natural way with large soundstage using it’s semi-opened design.
I read a comment of yours saying that you put 5db down the 9-10k frequencies. Is there any need of fine-tuning the while EQ to make the frequencies more flatter? In the graph, the frequencies around 15-18k is also very high, and the frequency between 4-5k a bit low. Also, the base levels are curved down from around 150Hz to 20Hz. Is there any need of increasing that too? I want to listen in almost possible flat way, that’s why I’m asking this.
Anyways, thanks again for this awesome detailed review!
Hey man!
Thank you so much for your kind words! 🙂
I don’t think you’ll have to do much to the 850 outside of 8-10kHz. The bass does roll off but it sounds very accurate for mixing and stuff like that. You could bring it up a little if you wanted, but if you don’t like punchy bass the 850 is going to be a welcome change! Bringing it up a bit would probably help if you mix a lot of lower bass frequencies and stuff. The 4-5dB dip from the graph looks more extreme than it actually is, but you could bring that up a bit too if it bothers you. I personally don’t have an issue with it because 5k is a bit less important to what our ears expect around 1-3. The 5k bump on the K240 does make it really special and unique for older Rock and Motown type of stuff though!
What do you think? Did the 850 arrive? What are your impressions?
Talk soon,
-Stu
Dear Stuart,
Thanks for the awesome detailed review. I also read and viewed the comparison post and video between AKG 240 and Samson SR-850. My earlier plan was to buy AKG, but due to the pandemic I couldn’t afford it and amp at present, so I bought the Samson. I’m now waiting for it’s arrival ?.
In one of your comment you said that you set the EQ around 9k-10k to -5db. The frequency graph in many reviews including yours shows the base frequencies below 100k curves to lower level, and higher frequencies at higher level. Can’t these base and higher frequencies should be adjusted to ‘flat’ like the 9k-10k? I’m very new to these that’s why I’m asking. Can’t all the frequencies should be adjusted to get a flatter sound? Like increase the base and decrease the highs?
I also found some softwares which adjusts the EQ to get the ‘flatter’ sound. One is Sonarworks and the other is EQ APO. Do you have any experience with these or simillar softwares?
Hey man! You commented on YouTube right? I think we were discussing it and I ask because I remember you had meant to say 100Hz heh 🙂 Let me know! Did you get the 850 yet?
Yes. These are the best headphones money can buy, BUT :
They need EQ to boost lows from 30Hz to 60Hz, but LOWER the 5KHz to 8KHz alot, and from 10KHz to 16KHz, to lower just a few dB’s.
I use them for listening music, mixing, mastering, for movies, youtube, so… for everything.
Try Equalizer APO with these settings : 20 -9; 25 2; 31.5 2; 40 3; 50 1.5; 63 1; 80 -1; 100 -2; 125 -2; 160 -3; 200 -2; 250 -2; 315 -3; 400 -4; 500 -4; 630 -4; 800 -3; 1000 -4; 1250 -4; 1600 -6; 2000 -8; 2500 -7; 3150 -5; 4000 -5; 5000 -9; 6300 -12; 8000 -10; 10000 -9; 12500 -7; 16000 -4; 20000 0 .
Cheers 😉
Thanks for the EQ preset man!
Nice and honest review. Very helpful! Thanks. There is much chatting about Superlux hd681b versus the Samson. Both are in budget range. What’s your opinion?
Hey man! Thank you so much. Can’t go wrong with either but the 681B has less bass roll-off if that’s important to you. Both have bright treble but a great mid-range and mostly neutral profile.
Hey Stu,
I’m not a self-proclaimed audiophile, but I have to agree with pretty much everything you’ve stated in this review. I think I’ve owned the SR850s for around 8 years at this point, and they’re still kicking! The clamping pressure was a little too much for my head, but after stretching them out, they are extremely comfortable.
You’re right. For the money, I feel like very few headphones can compete. It really is a steal. I’ll have to try out your suggested EQ because I have noticed the highs can be a bit harsh for my taste at times.
I’m really glad I found this site! I’ll have to check out all of your other articles/content.
Johnny,
Thank you for the vote of confidence! How are the pads doing? Have you had to replace them? And thank you for the kind words. I am always adding and improving articles so definitely check back often!
Keep me posted on your impressions of the EQ as well.
Cheers,
-Stu
I actually haven’t had to replace the earpads yet, but I think that’s more to do with the fact that I don’t listen to the headphones on a daily basis. They do feel a bit cheap, and I can see them falling apart under heavy use. Haven’t had time to try out EQ, as my wife now permanently uses the SR850s for her digital piano practicing at night. She loves them and won’t give them back! Looks like I’m in the market for another pair of cans lol.
HAHA. Chicks can be like that. A girl I dated a few years ago didn’t want to give me back my HD600s after I lent them to her. She knows nothing about audio and isn’t even close to being an audiophile. She said, “I never want to leave my room again!” (She just wanted to isolate herself in her room and listen to music 24/7 LOL).
And that’s a good thing. Now you actually have an excuse to buy more things HAHA. Most married folks I’ve talked to are deathly afraid of buying gear in fear of their wife finding out and scolding them. xD
Keep me posted and definitely let me know if you need any help deciding!
Cheers,
-Stu
I hope you got your HD 600s back! I can live with losing my SR850s, but a pair of HD 600s would be a different story…
I guess I have the excuse to get a new set of headphones, but I still don’t think my wife will be happy about it haha. In her perfect world, I should be happy to give her my headphones AND be headphoneless for the rest of time! Not gonna happen.
As far as which headphones I’m considering, I’m definitely leaning more heavily towards open-back/semi-open-backs. I’ve been listening to my Sony WF-1000XM4 ear buds in the meantime, and needless to say, I’ve been craving more of an open sound.
I’m looking for a bit of a jack-of-all-trades. I’m going to be using these headphones for mixing, gaming, watching movies/shows, and general music listening. I have $200 worth of Guitar Center gift cards that I really want to use towards this purchase, but their prices can be weird!
I realize that this comments section might not the best place to discuss these details, since it has almost NOTHING to do with the Samson SR850, so I’d be happy to take the convo somewhere else if that’s what you prefer.
HAHAH! *Scoff* Wives.
Yeah, I did get them back after we wrestled on the floor for a while. xD 😉
And no worries. We can discuss it here. Yeah, Guitar Center pricing and generally any of those brick-and-mortar stores can vary wildly. I find that B&H, Amazon, Sweetwater, etc. mostly stay in the same general price range for most stuff I review and demo here.
That said, I did reply in depth on the Beyerdynamic article. Did you happen to see that one?
Yes I did see your response to my other comment. I’ll respond to that thread. Thanks again!
My pleasure man!
Completely agree such a lively sound. Initially i thought they were lacking bass n had too much treble until I realised that the pad was the culprit there. Replaced it with AKG K240 MK2 pads and it was shining. Thanks Stu.
Nishant,
Apologies for the delay as I was out of town.
Nice! I’m glad you’re enjoying the sound now. I may have to pick up another pair and try them with those pads!!
-Stu